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JeffP
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:46 pm    Post subject: Tables and Terrain Reply with quote

We have a chance to double our prize support if we have 100 players. To do that we will need more tables and terrain. We will need help making all that stuff as well. Most of this will be late May through June.

We also need to explore getting ahold of folding tables.

Side note, it seemed that many people would get to their table and immediately remove all the trees from the table. So the question is, is it tacky to have woods areas and not have trees? Or just put 1 tree on the wood area to mark it?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One or two trees per forest is sufficient. No trees might lead to too much confusion (forests being mistaken for marshes, for example).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many more tables are you talking about? I supplied one last year even though it was less than an ideal table. I would be willing to make one or two for the cause (and not use the 2 piece table). I would consider them a donation. The storage at OWU was pretty cramped so I could even store them in my garage and have them at your disposal.

I also have several sheets of luan that I aquired for free . . . I could also supply 10ish sheets of it for table tops.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a folding table that can be used for BB. I will bring it the day of, but will need a cap for it cause mine is too big to transport.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really need stuff earlier than the day of since we pretty much hit the groud running Sat morning. If we are in a pinch, I might drive around to collect stuff the weekend before. Im taking off Thurs and Fri this year.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We need to look at what we want for the up coming tournament. Months ago we talked about building some race specific tables (Dwarf, Lizard, Chaos) which I think would be a good idea, but that will require more time for the terrain. Building generic be fine as well for this year, with looking at replacing bad/ugly tables the following year.

Who would be interested in having a terrain nights (it would take more than one evening because of dry time) or working on items at home?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats fine too Jeff.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking on terrain . . . where can I buy water based spray paint? I can't find it around Mt Vernon anywhere. I've been working on my display board, but can't paint anything.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So the question is, is it tacky to have woods areas and not have trees? Or just put 1 tree on the wood area to mark it?


Seriously? Is it tacky if I just use bases and and only put a mini or two in the regiment to mark what it is? Ok, that's a bit extreme, but still..its about the aesthetics, not necessarily what would be easiest.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems like a no-win. We put time and $ into setting up good looking tables with trees, but it seemed like 60% of the players removed the trees from the table if not turn 1, then close to it. So I was wondering if they were even needed. Personally I like to have them on there for appearance. But players seem to see them as an annoyance. Just asking for opinions.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Alex was being funny, Jeff Razz . I do agree though, we do want to present attractive gaming surfaces for everyone to play on. I think "less trees" is the best compromise. I know in the past two Buckeyes that I've attended, none of my games saw all of the trees pulled up immediately. Maybe that's just something done regularly by one or two groups that show up to the event?

Scheduling a couple of terrain nights sounds like a good idea. Perhaps we could work them in at some point that coincides with a (relative) lull in the college schedule (no where near midterms, finals, etc)? Might give us a better chance to see collegiate players attend the terraforming drive.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finish school after the first week in May. After that point we could build tables & terrain here with out any conflicts for the most part, both during the day and in the evening.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I'm sorry if that came off harsher than I meant it to. I agree trees can be a hassle and it is an added expense, but, on the other hand, if I went to an event and all they did was put out felt and call it woods, I'd be disappointed in the quality of the event.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex your post was fine. I wasnt sure what you were asking so I tried to clarify.

The trees are staying.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terrain talk time. Chad would like to get some themed tables and terrain done, but needs our help.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just went out to the garage and counted and I have about 8 sheets of 1/4" Luan. Some may have some dings and marred edges, so I would count on 6 good sheets. They were free to me, so they are free to the club.

Chad you are the expert . . . is 1/4" good enough?

I would also be willing to pickup some of the lumber you would need to build boards and donate it. I built my portable board with this sheeting and 1X2s. Would make for a light(er) board that is fairly low profile.

It would be easiest for me to get the materials directly to the theater as its all state highway and no interstate. Also, even if we do not have a "terrain day" soon I would like to swing it by at the earliest convienence to Chad if possible because I may be trying to sell my truck soon.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dings are not necessarily a bad thing. might be able to turn into terrain or cut out as Chad did the "stone" effect last year. might even work on the edges.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We will be meeting to talk about what we want to do for terrain Tues March 30 at the Tower. If anyone wants to be a part of the terrain team you can take part. If you wish to be on the team and cannot make it, thats fine. Let Chad know what you want to do and when are good times for you to help.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I delivered the 9 sheets of Luan to Chad today. Hopefully that's a good head start on table making!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats huge. thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chad would like a terrain night next week at his shop. We can do this on game night? or Fri night? Up to those that can/will help.

Basic needs use a jigsaw to cut out bases for hills and define woods. Slather paint on tables, hills, anything that needs painted.

Also we have 11 sets of GW trees coming in that will need painted.

If you are able to help out, let us know what works for you? Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am able to assist on Friday, unable to currently during the week
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am willing to help, but I will not be available on next Friday. The Friday after that . . . I'm good though if this becomes a recurring work night. Tuesday would also be ok with me if we start at like 5 or 6.
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can do it on Friday.
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am the same. I'm working nights next week, and won't be available to help until Friday or the weekend. If another time is set up I will try to make it.
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